Sunday, 2 October 2016

 

Hungarians are having a vote today on whether to accept refugees under the EU's resettlement program. It looks like they will vote overwhelmingly against it. I find Hungary a fascinating contrast to the rest of Europe. What would be considered "far right" anywhere in western Europe is mainstream there. Even bishops and typical journalists are openly critical of Islam and immigration.

Why has this happened? Life under a communist dictatorship undoubtedly played a part in inoculating people against leftist totalitarianism masquerading as virtue. But it seems to me that part of the explanation may be genetic.

One of the most important milestone moments in history is the transition from nomadic hunting and gathering to settled agriculture. Nomadic societies tend to be highly egalitarian because there is no storable wealth. The only wealth to speak of is meat from slaughtered animals which cannot be stored long-term because it is highly perishable. For that reason, you may as well share it. If there are disagreements in the nomadic hunter group or attempts to establish overlordship, some of the group can easily just break away and roam a new territory of their own. For that reason they tend to be minimally hierarchical.

All of that changes with the transition to settled agriculture. You then have storable wealth in the form of agricultural products. Once that exists, some people will find ways to extort it from others using threats of violence. Hierarchies will form and the people at the top - whether they call themselves chiefs, kings, presidents or prime ministers - will use the proceeds of their extortion to pay for armies of followers to do their bidding.

From then on, life under a hierarchy becomes a permanent part of the human condition. People respond to this in different ways. Some people have genes that code for rebellious and subversive attitudes and behaviour. Those people will be eugenically disfavoured in a society based on settled agriculture. Violent rulers will kill or imprison those who challenge them. People with rebel genes will therefore enjoy lower reproductive success than people with tame genes, meaning every new generation will have a smaller proportion of rebels in it.

This, I think, is part of the explanation for what is happening to Europeans. We have been tamed by the practice of settled agriculture for 4000 years and the accompanying life under a hierarchy. The rebel genes have been screened out of the gene pool. The world wars may even have contributed to this with a disproportionate culling of the more martially inclined; and martial inclinations may well correlate with rebelliousness.

If the elites of Morocco, the Congo, Turkey or Iran - almost anywhere outside European civilisation, really, although I'm not sure about east Asians like Japan and China - tried to repopulate their country with aliens, the people would rise up and massacre them, the aliens and the elites. Only a tame and emasculate people would submit to this.

How does this relate to Hungarians? Unlike most other Europeans, Hungarians have not been practising settled agriculture for 4000 years. They were a nomadic people that only arrived in "Hungary" about 1000 years ago. For that reason, the taming process has gone much less far in them. The genes for rebelliousness should be more widespread in their gene pool.

To summarise, my hypothesis is that the length of time a people has been practising settled agriculture is inversely related to the degree of patriotic resistance it displays when its ruling class embarks on the process of repopulating the country with aliens. And, of course, since these are genetic traits, this would apply to individuals based on their ancestral descent, not just to "countries".

If this true, and you had precise enough data, you could probably see interesting patterns of variation even within European populations based on the time at which their ancestors took up settled agriculture. For example, observing the various patriotic resistance movements that exist, including in European diaspora societies, it strikes me that people of Irish descent are disproportionately represented in them. It may be that Ireland, too, was late in taking up settled agriculture and therefore adapting to life under a hierarchy with the gradual taming effect this entails.

Incidentally, there are reports of Germans moving to Hungary to get away from "refugees" and because they want to live somewhere where Europeans are not going to let themselves be turned into an ethnic minority. I'm also thinking of moving there myself.

15 comments:

  1. Killary and Fraud polls, all for pro-inmigration vote :

    http://christiantimesnewspaper.com/breaking-tens-of-thousands-of-fraudulent-clinton-votes-found-in-ohio-warehouse/

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  2. Its not just Hungary. The whole of Eastern Europe is different political animal that Western Europe.

    1. Many countries there, including Hungary, were ruled by the muslim turks. They remember that and hate that period.
    2. No one in Eastern Europe feels guilty for anything. No "white guilt" and other various guilt complexes to be exploited.
    3. There is no feminism in Eastern Europe. Those societies are more traditional.
    4. There is more respect towards old traditions, while in the West people are more materialistic and despise things like Christianity, which is now seen as "primitive", as something from the "old times", etc. In contrast, people from Eastern Europe do not piss on their past and their heritage.
    5. People in Eastern Europe are not afraid of being called a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic etc. while these words are having paralising effect on westerners, especially in public.
    6. People there do not believe in Globalism and diversity and have no experience with immigration or "integrating others". People there are moderate nationalists/traditionalists, thet believe that they should have their own countries, their own exclusive cultures, etc.
    7. Christianity is staging a comeback in countries such as Russia, Belarus, and Poland.

    Its as if Communism saved Eastern Europe from the massive Brain Washing going on in Western Europe. While communism had its own brainwashing, it was more concerned with Income Inequality (erasing the gap between rich and poor people), but not about Gays, Feminism, Minorities, etc. There were no open borders during communism, no immigration, homosexuality was seen as western plot for destabilisation, and natalism (gov support for higher birth rates) was popular as well. The culture in communist countries, no matter how surprising my sound to you, was more socially conservative than in todays West. For example communists, unlike todays elites, supported the institution of the family, as they understood that weakening the family will weaken their countries and they wont benefit from that.

    "The view of the Soviet family as the basic social unit in society evolved from revolutionary to conservative; the government of the Soviet Union first attempted to weaken the family and then to strengthen it."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_in_the_Soviet_Union

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    1. This whole thing is very complex. I think for example, that westerners are afraid to lose their standart of living, and thats why prefer not to rock to boat. On the other hand, poorer people do not have much to lose.

      I think this is partly psyhological: it is harder to manipulate people who did not engage in colonialism, did not import slaves, and are small countries that were often ruled by others. There is no imperial hubris there, that hubris where your country could integrate anyone, that they should try to create some kind of great utopia on Earth, that they are all powerful, that they should try to save the world, etc.

      There is no "guilt" there, and at the same time there is no hubris. They understand very well that if they open their borders, they will be destroyed, and probably become slaves to others.

      Most jews are in the West now, so the left and the real communists are now in the West too. The West is becoming the new Soviet Union. The left-wing propaganda is coming from the west. The rest of the World is rejecting that.

      The old communism was about income inequality, that communism failed. Nowdays a large amount of western elites and rich people are jews, so communism/attacking the rich is no longer suitable for the West (in the minds of jews).

      The new communism is now in the West and only the West (or its elites) believes in it:

      its not about income equality, as that failed in the USSR, but about racial equality, gender equality, religious equality, cultural equality, and equality between heteros and homosexuals. Its not about poor vs rich anymore, but about whites vs non-whites, women vs men, homos vs heteros, etc.

      The party leaders and the intelectuals driving things forward remain the jews, the proletariat is now not the poor workers, but the non-whites, women, LGBT movement, and various other minorities, basically the famous jewish coalition of minorities.

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    2. to Putinists

      _ You knew that only 30% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?

      _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?
      http://vk.com/photos71391354

      Here are a few photos of white ethnic Russian girls with russian asians (Yakuts, Buryats, Kalmyks, Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvash) and mestizos

      http://vk.com/photos71391354

      white russian girl and buryat
      http://cs413018.vk.me/v413018267/5973/sipny67lJGI.jpg

      white russian girl and tatar (or bashkir)
      http://cs413018.vk.me/v413018267/596c/Py57F70bQuE.jpg

      white russian girl and tatar (or bashkir)
      http://cs14107.vk.me/c413124/v413124267/80a0/w1g8mHf2XXs.jpg

      white russian girl and korean
      http://cs413018.vk.me/v413018267/5abd/K4J3Gkra5pw.jpg

      white russian girl and mestizo
      http://cs14107.vk.me/c413124/v413124267/80a8/eNaPbbZyAeA.jpg

      white russian girl and armenian
      http://cs14107.vk.me/c413124/v413124267/7f89/5C0nGO1cato.jpg

      _ You knew that in Russia have 800.000 abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?

      _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?

      _ You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?

      _you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?

      Ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

      Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
      he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the Jews.

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    3. _Russia has World’s 2nd largest number of Immigrants – UN Study
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t993813/
      _ Ideology of Novorossiya: internationalism and anti-fascism
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1054161/
      _ Russia: 8 millions drug users, world’s top heroin consumer. Krokodil epidemic.
      ”More than 70,000 people die each year in Russia from drug abuse, about 30,000 of them from heroin, according to the FSKN. Millions more suffer from dependency, with an estimated 8.5 million drug addicts in 2013, according to an FSKN report. ”
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1052179/
      _Russia: the hunt for thought crimes in file-sharing networks & other news of police-state mayhem
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1051291/
      _ Russia’s chief rabbi thanks Putin for support to Jews
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1053178/
      _ Russia: patriotic publisher Viktor Korchagin goes on trial for a book about Jews
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1045245/
      _ Jews want more sinagogues in Crimea
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1043351/
      _ Russia spends millions for mini football among migrants to increase tolerance
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1049321/
      _Total ban of white symbols in Russia
      https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t925663/

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    4. Those are valid arguments, but first: you never adressed the other eastern european countries that i mentioned. I'm eastern european, (bulgarian), so think that i can talk with authority about the region i mentioned.

      Second, the behavior of Russia during the refugee crisis is very different than that of the EU. They took very few syrian refugees (1600) and they critisized EU refugee policies.

      Russia Unwelcoming for Syrians Seeking Refuge
      http://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/not-many-syrian-refugees-welcomed-in-russia/3014115.html


      Russia’s immigration chief lashes out at Europe over migration
      “Practicing family reunification and offering refugees generous benefits without integrating them into the labor market, the EU did not expect that such a great number of people would claim these rights. This was clearly a mistake. The policy of multiculturalism has failed.”

      Romodanovsky accuses EU leaders of willfully ignoring the “differences in culture, religious traditions, and customs.”

      “Note the defiant behavior of refugees and their growing claims and demands. What happened in Germany on New Year’s Eve is a striking example of this,” said the official, referring to the mass sex assaults in Cologne perpetrated largely by members of ethnic minorities during that holiday.

      “People in Europe are getting restless. The economic situation is difficult as it is, unemployment is high, and yet their governments have to support immigrants from Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, northern Africa, and provide them with housing and jobs.”

      https://www.rt.com/news/334950-russia-europe-refugees-multiculturalism/

      So i think that there are two crucial difference, between Russian and Western immigration policies.

      In the West, there is deliberate and massive importation of blacks, indians, arabs, etc.
      In Russia, immigration comes mostly from the neighboring countries, that were once part of the russian empire or the USSR.
      I do not see (in Russia) deliberate massive importation of blacks, arabs or indians, like in the West.

      And secondly, many in the governing elites of Europe directly told the refugees: "please come here". I do not see someone in the russian governing elites urging refugees to come to Russia.

      For Russia, i could say for sure that the russian government supports the return of Orthodox Cristianity. I do not see anything like this in any western country. If they are jewish puppets, then why are they trying to revive Christianity? Jews attack Christianity all over the place in Europe and North America.

      And third, you should explain why so many jews attack Putin, such as Soros, Bernar Henry Levy, the Neocons, most of the jew owned media - the New York Times, the US Democratic Party, etc. I know that he has good relations with Israel, but i think that he does that from a PR point of view - in order not to be called a new Hitler (and he was still called a new Hitler by Hillary Clinton, Prince Charles, Gary Kasparov (a jew) etc.) and not to increase the hysteria against him. Do not forget that he has very close relations with Iran, and i never saw a jewish puppet who was friendly to Iran.

      And if he is jewish puppet, why is he not impementing the gay rights thing? Or Feminism? Jews everywhere are extremely supportive of gay rights and feminism, it does not make sense for him to be a jewish puppet and to be fostering an anti-gay sentiments and attacking feminist groups like Pussy Riot and Femen at the same time.

      And, as i said above, i see lots of elites calling Putin "the New Hitler" .
      http://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-compared-putin-to-hitler-2014-5

      I don't see why would they call him like that if he was a jewish puppet. In this moment, there is anti-russian hysteria all over the place, if you look at jews, (for example Masha Gessen or Anne Applebaum or Victoria Nuland) many of them are getting crazed about russian behavior, and you are telling me that Putin is a jewish puppet? No, i simply can not agree with this.

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    5. feminism ? Russia have 800.000 abortions every year ,you retard .

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    6. VLADIMIR PUTIN EXPRESSES SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL:
      "Support for Operation Protective Edge, Israel’s military effort to stop Hamas’ incessant rocket attacks against Israel’s civilians, is coming directly from the Kremlin.
      “I am closely tracking what is happening in Israel,” Russian President Vladimir Putin remarked in a meeting on Wednesday with a delegation of Chief Rabbis and representatives of the Rabbinical Center of Europe.
      The purpose of the meeting, according to the Kremlin, was to discuss joint efforts to prevent the rewriting of history, the fight against neo-Nazism and neo-fascism, xenophobia and anti-Semitism.
      “It is important to discuss the subject of the Holocaust of the World War II era. There are Holocaust survivors among the rabbis, they have their personal, dramatic stories,” Rabbi Alexander Boroda, President of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia, told Interfax-Religion."
      http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=31099&alias=president-putin-i-support-israel

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    7. Putin criminalizes holohoax
      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4516656,00.html

      He excuses Stalin and construction of a new monument tohonom:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-soviet-leader-joseph-stalin-was-no-worse-than-oliver-cromwell-9016836.html

      He sees Lenin as a sacredrelik:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/9737569/Vladimir-Putin-compares-Lenin-to-holy-Christian-relics.html

      He cooperates militarily with Israel: http: //rt.com/news/israel-barak-militar Serdyukov /

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    8. There is no need to talk about "retards", you are not in the kindergarten.

      Actually the russians are working in order to decrease abortions -

      http://russia-insider.com/en/society/could-russia-ban-abortions/ri16753

      http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-church-and-state-sign-agreement-prevent-abortion/ri15445

      They are also working in order to raise their birth rate.

      The EU, from what i see, is against that activity, and is trying to stop it. For me, if the EU is against it, then this is a good sign.

      "Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe tabled [introduced] Written Declaration 594 entitled “Women’s right to access appropriate reproductive health services in the Russian Federation” which states:

      We the undersigned members of the Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly are strongly concerned about the three draft laws submitted to the State Duma of the Russian Federation aiming to severely restrict access of women to abortion."

      As for the other areas of russian support for Israel, i see such support in Russia, in Poland, and in other Eastern European countries. Are they compromised - yes. Are they better than what is going on in the West - also yes. What i find good though, is that many jews, maybe a million, left Russia, so this will have a positive effect, on the other side jews are immigrating towards the US for example, which shows that the US is a fertile soil for them and their influence there will only further increase.

      Attemts to put equivalence between the level of jewish influence in the West and in Eastern Europe will simply not work, it is very clear to me that the epicenter of jewish influence is the West and the United States in particular.

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    9. Moreover, you should explain why is Putin supporting people like Donald Trump, Viktor Orban, and Marine Le Pen? He financed the National Front in France. Russia was accused of hacking the Democrat Party in the US, which is supported by 74 percent of US jews and the flagman of jewish media, the New York Times. George Soros's organisation Open Society was removed from Russia. Why is that?

      "Officials declined to say which parties could come into the probe but it is thought likely to include far-right groups including Jobbik in Hungary, Golden Dawn in Greece, the Northern League in Italy and France’s Front National which received a 9m euro (£6.9m) loan from a Russian bank in 2014. "

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12103602/America-to-investigate-Russian-meddling-in-EU.html

      Russia bans two Soros foundations
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/30/russia-bans-two-george-soros-foundations-from-giving-grants

      Putin's Hand Grows Stronger as Right-Wing Parties Advance in Europe
      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-15/putin-s-hand-grows-stronger-as-right-wing-parties-advance-in-europe

      New York Times: Vladimir Putin’s Outlaw State
      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/opinion/vladimir-putins-outlaw-state.html?_r=0

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  3. In Diaspora Peoples, the preface to A People That Shall Dwell Alone, Kevin MacDonald considers collectivist and individualistic peoples:

    ’Such people [Chinese, Jews, Gypsies] are prone to a suite of traits that predispose them to form cohesive…group strategies: Extended kinship groups, patricentric social organization, endogamous marriage, ethnocentrism, xenophobia, and moral particularism. On the other hand, group strategies are expected to be relatively difficult to develop for individualistic peoples such as Europeans who drive from northern hunter-gatherer peoples. Such peoples tend toward the opposite set traits: simple family structure, exogamous marriage, relative lack of ethnocentrism and xenophobia, and moral universalism.’

    Europeans may be uniquely ill-equipped to see themselves as a people and to organize to defend themselves against betrayal by their élites, particularly when those élites contain large numbers of a very highly ethnocentric community which sees itself in ‘resource competition’ (MacDonald again) with Europeans. Given the right circumstances, it is a betrayal which could have happened at any time. Indeed, it did happen (though on a lesser scale than today) when European élites employed Jews as tax gatherers and land agents, resulting in great hardship for the masses.

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  4. Hungarian football club helps to integrate refugees
    As the Rio Olympics unites people from around the world in sport, a football club in Hungary is also doing its bit for integration.

    Inter CDF brings together refugees who have landed in the country – people from Nigeria, Cameron, Iraq, Iran and Libya.

    “In this team, those who joined this team, even those who don’t speak Hungarian, they often learn here because the main language is Hungarian,” said Kissinger Nnuji, an engineer from Nigeria.

    Another player, Antem Sebastien Egbala, from Cameroon, added: “I came to Hungary in 2013. Since then, I’ve been playing with Inter CDF as a defender. I try to do my best.”

    Founded in 2006, Inter CDF was originally set up to help footballers from Africa who struggled to be accepted by clubs.

    A decade on, it is getting everyone together on the pitch – with the goal of helping refugees to feel at home in Hungary."

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5d3_1471019401#bMoLEtrvCM1hexEG.99

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  5. orban is gypsy

    http://hu.rightpedia.info/wiki/Orb%C3%A1n_Viktor


    More about viktor "the gypsy: orban
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1068427-2/

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t560198/



    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t335719/


    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t840919/

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    1. The problem with your comments is that they are not very intelligent. Children can do the same. Its not enough just to copy paste several links, of the type "Victor Orban is a gypsy", you must also make some kind of thesis.

      Otherwise what is the point of those copy pastes? You can start for exampe, by comparing the situation in Hungary, with the situation in the United States, as far as jewish influence is concerned, the level of immigration, multiculturalism, muslim acceptance, etc..

      My view is simple and i believe, accurate. Are Eastern European countries compromised? Yes. Are they better than what is going on in the West - also yes.

      Hungary fares far better than the United States or other western countries, as far as immigration is concerned. They built walls, and they voted with 95 percent against the EU immigration quotas. I severly doubt that 95 percent of americans will vote against immigration.

      I will tell you one thing: i prefer to stay in Eastern Europe. You stay in your US/UK/France. But i don't want to move there.

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