Wednesday, 13 April 2016


The Guardian continues its war on free comment with research purporting to show that women and minorities are disproportionately targeted by abusive comments (link). Part of the article features an exercise where you role-play the moderator. It asks you to allow or block certain comments. Of course I voted to allow all of them. This was one:
"I don’t think that pointing out the disproportional political influence Jews have in most western societies can be called a conspiracy. But branding people that point it out and labelling them anti-Semitic seems to me part of a conspiracy."
Here's the Guardian response:
You answered allow. We thought differently. This was removed for antisemitism: claiming Jewish people have disproportional influence in politics is an antisemitic trope with a long history. The comment also seems to suggest antisemtism doesn't really exist other than as a way to silence people.
Of course this ignores the criterion of objective truth. And this is indeed what you find in much of Muslim and Jewish discourse.

Indeed, this was one of the things that sparked my original insight into the similarities between Jews and Muslims. I had been reading a few things that day, some written by Muslims, some written by Jews - and I had an intuitive sense that there was something similar about them. I couldn't figure out what it was at first. Then it came to me: the absence of any reference to objective facts. Many articles written by Muslims and Jews focus on the invocation of emotive symbols and insinuations of wickedness. They are almost entirely fact-free. Read Nick Cohen's articles in the Observer for a good example of the style.

The search for objective truth - the quest for knowledge - strikes me as the defining characteristic of Europeanness. It's what's missing in our Oriental friends.

In this context of this comment, there are various objective measures of political influence. You can count the number of MPs/Senators/Congressmen and compare it to their share of the population. You could perform similar exercises for newspaper commentators or donors to political parties. And in each case you would find that Jews were very significantly overrepresented compared to their share of the population.

As Europeans, we must hold fast to the criterion of objective truth and not allow our debate forums to be turned into Oriental swamps where dusk-complexioned people quarrel about Good and Evil.

7 comments:

  1. É O CONTRARIO A QUANTIDADE DE PUTAS DE JUDEUS É DESPROPORCIONAL A DESTRUIÇÃO QUE ELES CAUSARAM

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  2. "You answered allow. We thought differently. This was removed for antisemitism: claiming Jewish people have disproportional influence in politics is an antisemitic trope with a long history. The comment also seems to suggest antisemtism doesn't really exist other than as a way to silence people.
    Of course this ignores the criterion of objective truth. And this is indeed what you find in much of Muslim and Jewish discourse." Except not: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19974/are-american-media-controlled-mostly-by-jews
    http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/8032/what-percentage-of-jews-were-in-finance-money-lenders-throughout-middle-ages?s=4|0.0829
    http://www.timwise.org/2015/03/responding-to-a-young-reactionary-white-privilege-judaism-and-the-making-of-sloppy-analogies/

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  3. Jews have made it a criminal offence to question their holocaust propaganda in EU countries? What more proof do you need of their political power?
    http://codoh.com/library/document/688/
    www.ihr.org/news/irving022006.html

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  4. Jewish Money and the Labour Party - Here Are The Numbers
    An Article by Gilad Atzmon -
    www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/12/jewish-money-and-the-labour-party-here-are-the-numbers/

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  5. "women and minorities", "racism and sexism", etc.
    Funny how those things always come together. Maybe there is an alliance between them? The women/minority alliance?

    "Many articles written by Muslims and Jews focus on the invocation of emotive symbols and insinuations of wickedness"

    They rely on emotion and invocations of "good" and "evil" in order to manipulate and control others. Of course whats good is whats good for the jews, and whats bad is whats bad for the jews. There is no place for objective truth in such type of self-obsessed thinking. Muslims are doing that in more primitive way, jews in a bit more sophisticated way.

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  6. Do Muslims have more animosity against their European hosts then Jews and if they had the same IQ as Jews would that result in greater regressive influences on our European societies then say those from Jewish minorities.
    Assuming European Jews have mean IQ of 115 and Muslims 90 that would mean that the proportion of Jews having IQ of 140 would be 66 times higher then those of Muslim groups. IQ of a 140 would roughly correlate with those positions that carry some power and influence.
    There are 270000 Jews in the UK. So to have the same potential power and influence there would have to be 66x270000 Muslims or nearly 18 million in the UK. There are about 5 million Muslims in the UK.
    That may explains the apparent huge disproportionality of Jewish influence compared to other minorities.


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